Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

future planned

English answer:

projected

Added to glossary by María Eugenia Wachtendorff
Sep 2, 2004 06:40
19 yrs ago
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English term

future planned

English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s) Games of Chance
Development and maintenance of the current and future planned game software

Introduction
XXX recognizes the complexity reflected in YYY's mature gaming requirements and the resulting applications to be developed and maintained for YYY by the successful bidder.

The following paragraphs summarize XXX’s approach to ensuring successful delivery of the project as well as ongoing service support activities.

I HAVE COME ACROSS THIS EXPRESSION A FEW TIMES BEFORE, AND I THINK IT IS WRONG.
AS THE AUTHOR OF THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH IS MEXICAN AND HOPEFULLY I WILL BE GETTING SPANISH>ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS FROM THE SAME SOURCE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR VALUABLE OPINIONS IN CASE THEY ASK ME TO USE "FUTURE PLANNED" INSTEAD OF "PROJECTED."
THANKS!

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Sep 2, 2004:
I'm so sorry, Airmailrpl, please accept my sincerest apologies. I did not mean to offend you. I should have pointed out that most Web pages are written by non-native writers of English and too many people learn wrong expressions and even acquire orthographic vices from Web Surfing.
BTW, the subject of my question is taken from a business contract written by college graduates. And I am seeking advice because I think there is a chance that "future planned" may be correct after all. Please say you forgive me!
airmailrpl Sep 2, 2004:
It is not my view that 'Google hits guarantee grammatical correctness' - only giving you reference material to read and judge for yourself - which is of course the obligation of the translator.
Non-ProZ.com Sep 2, 2004:
Sorry, I disagree with the view that Google hits guarantee grammatical correctness.
Non-ProZ.com Sep 2, 2004:
Of course, I would use "projected" instead of "future planned" (as opposed to "current")
Richard Benham Sep 2, 2004:
"Projected" on its own also sounds a bit funny, too. "Projected future", although slightly redundant, sounds more natural.
Richard Benham Sep 2, 2004:
I would have expecte "planned future", or, perhaps better, "proposed future". "Future planned" is essentially nonsense in this context.

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projected

Support your idea of using "projected".

Merriam-Webster's definition: projected : planned for future execution : CONTRIVED, PROPOSED *a projected excursion a full day long W.F.DeMorgan* *projected outlays for new plant and equipment J.G.Forrest*

Google hits:
"future planned" - 21.000 hits
projected - 5.330.000 hits
Peer comment(s):

agree Richard Benham : Good answer, bad argument. Never trust googlies! They have a habit of turing the other way at close range! (Little joke there for the cricket fans.)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much, Eldira. It seems clear enough that native speakers would not use "future planned" in a contract."
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future planned

María Eugenia, long time no see. How R u?
On future planned: The guy wants to say something like "on currently planned - and futurely planned - game software", but of course that's not the way to do it. So he says "present and future planned".
Peer comment(s):

agree Richard Benham : This doesn't really address the problem, which is that "future planned" is nonsense in English.
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agree Ramesh Madhavan : See what happens when you click twise :-))
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agree Orla Ryan
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agree Alfa Trans (X)
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agree Milena Sahakian
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'future planned' is not incorrect

Results 1 - 30 of about 20,700 English pages for "future planned".

[PDF] Site Inventory_copy.xls
... of Response Date Action is Planned Lat(UTM NAD27) Long(UTM NAD27) 1 Jul-04 509581.00
5314391.00 2 Mar-03 509602.00 5314445.00 3 Future Planned Activity Future
www.spiritlakenation.com/EPA _office_info/ brwnfld_site_inventory/Site_Inventory_copy.pd

Locations of Future Planned Facilites at HRNA
... Catalog: Hedrick Reserve Natural Area Dataset: Locations of Future Planned Facilites at HRNA, ... Identifier: Locations of Future Planned Facilites at HRNA.
gis.ca.gov/catalog/BrowseRecord.epl?id=22012

Future Planned Events | UofA International PeerLeaders
Future Detailed Events. March 2004. March 4 - 7th, 2004, Snow Trip March 4-7th. Organizer: Alan Angeles ([email protected]). Location: Big White Ski resort. ...
www.international.ualberta.ca/ peerleader/event-future.htm

GAIM: Future Planned Activities
Future Planned Activities. The future of GAIM will be dominated by Earth System Analysis and development of global biogeochemical models.
gaim.unh.edu/Structure/Future/
Peer comment(s):

agree Richard Benham : It is not incorrect, just nonsense in this context (and most others).
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thank you so much for expressing your opinion
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future planned

María Eugenia, long time no see. How R u?
On future planned: The guy wants to say something like "on currently planned - and futurely planned - game software", but of course that's not the way to do it. So he says "present and future planned".

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Note added at 5 hrs 41 mins (2004-09-02 12:22:11 GMT)
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So, according to eldira\'s soundings in Google, we have found a new \"buzz-phrase\"
Peer comment(s):

disagree Richard Benham : You are absolutely right.
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my take

I think that the wording is pretty poor. It is perfectly clear what they mean, but it doesn't sound like it has been written by a professional native-English writer. What they mean is....

"the current game software and that planned for the future."

If they really insist on "future planned", then they should use a hyphen between the two words "future-planned" because it is a two part adjective (think about the difference between a "fast sailing ship" and a "fast-sailing ship". However, as I said above, I do not believe that it is eloquent English usage.

FWIW

Alison


"Hyphenation
If in doubt, follow the Oxford English Dictionary (not Collins) hyphenation rules.

Hyphenate compounds such as up-to-the-minute and out-of-date when used attributively (before a noun). They are used with spaces when used predicatively.
The out-of-date research paper. The research paper is out of date.


Hyphenate compounds used attributively. in-house teams, a 12-year-old pupil


Hyphenate fractions (whether nouns or adjectives). two-thirds, four-fifths, one-sixth


Words with prefixes such as anti-, non-, and neo- are generally to be hyphenated.
non-existent, non-payment, non-violent

Exceptions are: nonaligned, nonconformist, nonplussed, nonstop, neoclassicism, neolithic, neologism


Separate identical letters with a hyphen.
co-operate, co-ordinate, unco-operative, pre-eminent, pre-empt, re-emerge, re-entry
Exceptions include: override, overrule, underrate, withhold


Nouns formed from prepositional verbs need a hyphen.
build-up, call-up, get-together, round-up, set-up, shake-up, knowledge-building


Adverbs do not need to be linked to participles or adjectives by hyphens in simple constructions.
The school was ill equipped for delivering ICT.
The principle is well established.

But if the adverb is one of two words together being used adjectivally, a hyphen may be needed.
All well-established principles should be periodically challenged."
Peer comment(s):

agree NancyLynn : yes, and I think the adj to use in this context would be "proposed"
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